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    I met Ernst Jandl several times shortly before he died, at home, over dinner, and I remember once, more or less out of the blue, he asked me what I thought about violence in the media .. I was a little surprised, and I think the first thing I said was : I don't particularly like it, but as far as I know, no one had really proven a direct causal relationship between violence in the media and violence in society .. in fact, I gave Japan as an example .. some of the most violent video games in the world are produced in Japan, yet Japan is one of the least violent societies on the face of the planet .. and, from a friend, who is a child psychiatrist, I had heard that not even so-called good television, educational television, like Sesame Street and Teletubbies, was really good for children .. what really seemed to matter was : how many hours did a child spend in front of a television, regardless of the program .. children who spent a lot of time in front of a television got lower scores on all sorts of aptitude and intelligence tests than children who did not watch television ..
    I think this is where our discussion ended that evening, but I kept thinking about the question .. don't really know why, I just did .. actually, there had been some shootings in a school in Colorado, or something like that .. and people were claiming that somehow it was violence in the media that had caused the violence in the schools .. calls for censorship in Hollywood, new legislation in Washington .. Everyone wanted a quick fix, someone to blame; no one wanted to take the time to look into what might be the real cause for the shootings, no one wanted to ask more difficult or more painful questions, no one wanted to look for more demanding solutions .. violence in the media was obvioulsy the problem .. so, when I heard the reports about the shootings in Colorado, I thought about Ernst Jandl and his question .. and now I know what I think about violence in the media .. I don't like it, but I think Stumpfsinn is a much greater social ill than is violence on television ..
    As far as I can see, Stumpfsinn (simple-mindedness is the only English term I can come up with right now)really is one of the worst, most dangerous social ills we humans face ..
    thinking of you, Ernst Jandl
    (Beitrag wurde von L Murasaki am 19.08.2001 um 00:12 Uhr bearbeitet.)

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    Von dieser Seite habe ich Ernst Jandl noch gar nicht betrachtet.

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    stellt sich neben L Murasaki, knickt lässig einen Löffel ab und steckt sich eine Möhre an
    Und iff faff fwiffen den beiden![/SIZE]

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    actually, I was surprised that he asked me the question, and even more surprised that it stayed in my mind the way it did ..

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    Well L. Murasaki,
    you are quiet an interessting personality. Interesting story, well formed sentences, and yet, you are the same person that filled up the forum with thousands of 'Good to be back' entries?
    Nice recursivity your thoughts about
    Stumpfsinn.

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    War Ernst Jandl nicht irgendwie der Vater der teletubbies?

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    Mein Freund Harvey, Ihre Beiträge gefallen mir am besten![/SIZE]

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    ..I like the word Stumpfsinn, or stumpfsinnig, because it has the connotation of impaired or attenuated sense perception .. and that's an important part of the problem, I think .. simple-minded doesn't have this association ..
    ..and now, I really have to go get some coffee!!

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    ..but Walter, before I go, was Ernst Jandl really the Father of the Teletubbies?

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    lacoste, haben Sie das gewollt?
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    Ich klage an.

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    Ich sage nichts ohne meinen Anwalt, aber der sitzt gerade in einer Eisdiele.
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    Herr Weber auch.


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    Unter google gibt es sieben Einträge zu jandl+teletubbies. Keiner deutet auf eine Verwandtschaftsbeziehung hin. Jandl hätte aber sicher eine bessere Sprache für diese knuddeligen Scheisshaufen gefunden als dieses gagaesque laalaabala welches sogar die Zielgruppe unterfordert. Die Generation die mit den Teletubbies aufwächst wird später mal eine ganz Gewalttätige. Kuschelig gewalttätig.

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